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filming yourself gone wrong.....
I just wondered if its just me who decides to make a video so has a little practice 1st. Everything is sweet you have continous flow and your pretty happy.
Then this happens....
You turn on your camera press play and BAM fuketty fuketty!!
Everything goes wrong,forget your moves,lose your timing,drop your kit or continuosly hit yourself?
why oh why oh why does this happen???
Is it just me or what??
Then this happens....
You turn on your camera press play and BAM fuketty fuketty!!
Everything goes wrong,forget your moves,lose your timing,drop your kit or continuosly hit yourself?
why oh why oh why does this happen???
Is it just me or what??
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Permalink Reply by spider baby on -
lol..! that happens to me every time.. you are not alone.
i can do a single trick and film but when i want to just flow and groove boom it's crap..
even if it is only for me to see my progress, i still forget moves lose my hoop constantly and flub what i do know..
i think because i get in the frame of mind.. "this is it ..get it right !" when i should be thinking blissful thoughts of flow.
when i turn on the camera i get tense, my muscles get tight and i look stiff and clumsy ..
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Permalink Reply by Chemigal on -
lol,its nuts is'nt it?
I must have a hundred crap vids some as short as 4 secs!!
Ive tried the 'forget about it and pretend its not there' thing, imo this makes me worse!
We should make a collection of 'bloopers' bet it would have a stack off me !!
Spider baby and X im glad im not the only one x
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Permalink Reply by Kendra on -
i am the same one, once i press play and step away, i lose it all, mind blank...i get the same way while performing... I always look back and say, why didn't i use that move? or i see other people who do better than me and i think...i know how to do all of that too...why didn't i do that...grrr.
i guess the more we practice the better we do and the more we remember.
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Permalink Reply by Nick Nomad on -
Chemigal said:We should make a collection of 'bloopers' bet it would have a stack off me !!
That's a great idea!
Maybe we should add a section to submit them and make a community bloopers video!
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Permalink Reply by RaveGamer on -
I typically do a few shoots of the same spin back to back just to make sure I get what I want on the video because i'm always finding something even if I don't think I did anything wrong while i'm recording, when I watch some of the replays I find little things I do n't want and then find the best one and keep that one.
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Permalink Reply by Kendra on
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Nick Nomad said:Chemigal said:We should make a collection of 'bloopers' bet it would have a stack off me !!
That's a great idea!
Maybe we should add a section to submit them and make a community bloopers video!
i agree, i have lots of bloopers videos, lots of hoops hitting the camera, face smacks, falling, breaking stuff. great idea...im all for sharing my shame with the world
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Permalink Reply by Nick Wheeler on -
I think that the anxiety described here is a really interesting nuance of performance arts that can illuminate something about our selves, our perceptions, and how we connect with the world around us.
One somewhat metaphorical way to think about 'flow arts' in general is as a channel to your inner state. Your mood, your frame of mind, your thoughts, these things echo around inside you at all times, and are drawn upon when you make decisions, act, and just live in general. When performing, it seems to me at least, this state of being is tapped and manifested into movement.
Framed in those terms, is it any wonder that when you change your internal state, you change your flow?
Because when you really boil it down, its your perception of the situation that is changing when the camera rolls, and nothing else. Its still just you and your gear, but your internal state has been modified in response to what that camera means to you, what it signifies. And so this reverberates around and inside and ultimately out into your performance.
Far from being necessarily a bad thing, this can even be used as an advantage. What if when the camera rolled, or when you stepped in front of an audience, your internal state shifted to an advantageous one? It just takes a change in perspective to transmit that sense of jitters into a feeling of positive exhilliration... I'd imagine many people do this already.
A key to it is how we feel about 'failure'. By creating accountability through the inclusion of an audience, failure (whatever that entails, be it failure to impress, failure to be perfect, failure to live up to your perceived potential, etc etc) can become a possibility, and can have negativity associated with it, such as specifically worrying about it, or just experiencing a sense of unease, dread, or anxiety. These things can be compounded in a fire performance, where failure in terms of preserving one's own good health can also suddenly be a perceived possibility (yet another good reason for fire safety... anxiety reduction!).
I think that a blooper section, community outtake reel, something of that nature, is an absolutely brilliant idea. Contained within is the possibility to see 'failure' in a different light. When you bash yourself in the dome, you can laugh it off, and pick up your prop, and jump right back in. 'Failure' doesn't have to follow from 'mistake'. And 'mistake' can be seen as not only innocuous, but precious. Valuable as a source of not only learning, but humor and good cheer as well.
Furthermore, we can show ourselves that the communal perception of mistakes is not negative. That's the unspoken source of performance anxiety... That we will be judged or perceived badly by ourself or others. This may be modeled from many sources, be it past criticism you've received, past observation of others being criticized, or even criticism you might make yourself when you see others looking silly. Its not important whether or not we actually will be negatively criticized... feeling like we will is sufficient to fall out of the zone, to affect that change of state.
If you can change that feeling, eliminate the expectation, or transform its effects, the positive internal results of that change will carry outwards into your performance.
Just a perspective, your mileage may vary ;)
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Permalink Reply by Jeremy Lota on -
I usually only film myself when I'm learning a move,
I prefer using mirrors but I don't get a chance to use mirrors when I'm burning so film it is.
As such I've got ALL kinds of awesome blooper vids of me learning moves for the first time!
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Permalink Reply by Kendra on
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Nick Wheeler said:I think that the anxiety described here is a really interesting nuance of performance arts that can illuminate something about our selves, our perceptions, and how we connect with the world around us.
One somewhat metaphorical way to think about 'flow arts' in general is as a channel to your inner state. Your mood, your frame of mind, your thoughts, these things echo around inside you at all times, and are drawn upon when you make decisions, act, and just live in general. When performing, it seems to me at least, this state of being is tapped and manifested into movement.
Framed in those terms, is it any wonder that when you change your internal state, you change your flow?
Because when you really boil it down, its your perception of the situation that is changing when the camera rolls, and nothing else. Its still just you and your gear, but your internal state has been modified in response to what that camera means to you, what it signifies. And so this reverberates around and inside and ultimately out into your performance.
Far from being necessarily a bad thing, this can even be used as an advantage. What if when the camera rolled, or when you stepped in front of an audience, your internal state shifted to an advantageous one? It just takes a change in perspective to transmit that sense of jitters into a feeling of positive exhilliration... I'd imagine many people do this already.
A key to it is how we feel about 'failure'. By creating accountability through the inclusion of an audience, failure (whatever that entails, be it failure to impress, failure to be perfect, failure to live up to your perceived potential, etc etc) can become a possibility, and can have negativity associated with it, such as specifically worrying about it, or just experiencing a sense of unease, dread, or anxiety. These things can be compounded in a fire performance, where failure in terms of preserving one's own good health can also suddenly be a perceived possibility (yet another good reason for fire safety... anxiety reduction!).
I think that a blooper section, community outtake reel, something of that nature, is an absolutely brilliant idea. Contained within is the possibility to see 'failure' in a different light. When you bash yourself in the dome, you can laugh it off, and pick up your prop, and jump right back in. 'Failure' doesn't have to follow from 'mistake'. And 'mistake' can be seen as not only innocuous, but precious. Valuable as a source of not only learning, but humor and good cheer as well.
Furthermore, we can show ourselves that the communal perception of mistakes is not negative. That's the unspoken source of performance anxiety... That we will be judged or perceived badly by ourself or others. This may be modeled from many sources, be it past criticism you've received, past observation of others being criticized, or even criticism you might make yourself when you see others looking silly. Its not important whether or not we actually will be negatively criticized... feeling like we will is sufficient to fall out of the zone, to affect that change of state.
If you can change that feeling, eliminate the expectation, or transform its effects, the positive internal results of that change will carry outwards into your performance.
Just a perspective, your mileage may vary ;)
Very, very, very well said!!!!
i have no words, just appreciation.
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Permalink Reply by Xander on -
Wow. I've been sort of visualising something along these lines, but, I mean, wow (just call me Mr. Eloquent). It's put a lot of what I've felt during performances into perspective for me. It seems to be something which no matter who you are or how you've gone about learning/training/developing your skills you'll always feel. It's just a matter of how you perceive the event itself and process the emotions involved.
Learning point, methinks!
Thank You, Mr Wheeler, Sir!
Nick Wheeler said:I think that the anxiety described here is ...
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